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Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:23 pm
by chandlers hew
I just updated to the 19 public beta. Was just in 18.6.6 and didn't have this issue. Now my graded clips when I start to watch they shift to a cooler tone especially in the shadows but when I pause it the grade looks exactly how it should. Have not tried to export yet but thought this needed to be brought to attention for the beta to be fixed. Has anyone had this happen in the past? Any fixes?

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:32 pm
by chandlers hew
Just to give some context I will attach photos. Even my scopes change from playing the clip from paused. The during play is cooler and the paused is warmer

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:33 pm
by chandlers hew
It wouldn't allow me to attach 4 images so here is the scopes while playing the clip

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:34 pm
by Jim Simon
I haven't noticed this myself.

Post up some details about Color settings, Nodes, Media, etc.

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:33 pm
by waltervolpatto
Check preference/user/playback settings, disable all and see if that matter
Do you have a LUT somewhere?
Do you have RAW?

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:42 am
by chandlers hew
Jim Simon wrote:I haven't noticed this myself.

Post up some details about Color settings, Nodes, Media, etc.


Color Settings: Timeline settings are Davinci WG/ Intermediate
Export Settings are: Rec 709 Gamma 2.4

Nodes are a node tree from a professional colorist pretty much it takes my Canon Log 3 uses a CST to convert Canon Log 3 into Davinci Wide Gamut then has all of my grade adjustments in primaries wheels, Log Wheels, HDR Wheels, and Custom Curves. Then Another CST from Davinci Wide Gamut converting to Rec 709 and Cineon Film Log as the Gamma. Then have the Kodak 2383 LUT applied on the last node. 6 Nodes in total.

All media is Canon Log 3 footage. I am editing off of Proxies that are 1080 10 bit. Original footage was all 4K

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:44 am
by Steve Alexander
See here https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=200169#p1040141

Reported several times in various forms. New bug in 19b1.

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:46 am
by chandlers hew
Steve Alexander wrote:See here https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=200169#p1040141

Reported several times in various forms. New bug in 19b1.



Ahhhh thank you so much! Glad I am not the only one this is happening to! Hopefully will be fixed soon!

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:49 am
by windingpath
I'm seeing this color shift (playing vs paused) when using the new Film Look Creator. Have not noticed it otherwise.

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:19 am
by Pat Inhofer
When I see play vs pause viewer issues, the first place I go is:

User Settings > Playback Settings > Performance Mode

Set it to DISABLE

Then see if it's still happening. If the problem disappears, switch to Manual and check each item on/off individually to see which one (or combination) is causing the issue.

If Performance Mode is set to Disabled and you still see the problem, it's something else and may be a bug.

HTH.

Re: Color Grade Changes warmth when playing vs paused

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2024 10:45 pm
by Steve Swisz
waltervolpatto wrote:Check preference/user/playback settings, disable all and see if that matter
Do you have a LUT somewhere?
Do you have RAW?

Again Walter COLOR GENIUS Volpatto to the rescue, between you and Marc W. I can keep working.
Just noticed on one of our Mac Stations while running some Test on the BETA.
I have some AP0 Lin EXR Files, with CST NODE, taking us to ArriV3 LogC3 - this pops more with the VFX turnovers, when paused, the files almost appear to graded or like Rec709 CST is on, then in playback they flip to NODE setting "Log"... My color management is DavWG... so is the timeline.....