Fairlight selection range can't be adjusted

If you make a selection and then try to move the handles at the ends of the range, the range is deselected:

I'm not seeing that problem here. Making a selection using the I/O keys or the Range Tool I can move the handles by clicking on and dragging the I/O points.

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In your video I see that you have the Focus Mode highlighted and not the Range Tool to the left of it.

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No change to Focus mode with regard to Range manipulation from 18.6.6 to 19.

To extend the Range in Focus mode use the "Extend Edit Selection" keybindings.

Alternatively, switch to Range mode and extend Ranges with the mouse dragging In/Out Points.

Thanks for the replies. I tried using "Range" mode but I only want to select from one track. If you select a track (or event on a track) in Range mode, it highlights the whole event; and the cross-style cursor becomes a hand that drags the whole thing.

Hm, this might be a bug that's causing the problem. Sometimes the cursor becomes the hand; sometimes it doesn't; and sometimes it's a cross but becomes a hand when you press the button. I'll have to examine this to see what the pattern is.

Regardless, the behavior of the handles in "Focus" mode is not correct; the UI clearly indicates that you can move them, but you can't. Then there's the nonsensical naming of these controls. This is what the doc says:

To adjust only a selected range:
— Use the Focus Mode Select tool (I-beam cursor) to select the range you want to affect.

Only the track you use the Range Tool on will be modified. Here's a quick rough video showing what you should see. Does your mouse have its own software? If so you may need to change the settings.

Only the track you use the Range Tool on will be modified. Here's a quick rough video showing what you should see. Does your mouse have its own software?]

Thanks a lot for taking the time to post that. I don't have any special mouse driver. What's odd is how inconsistent the behavior and the display are from the "Focus" tool. The Range selection highlight covers the entire timeline vertically, unlike the Focus one. So intuitively you try to limit the scope of the tool by selecting a timeline event first, but clicking on one selects the whole thing and turns the cursor into a hand.

In the end, I don't see the point of having both tools. One tool could suffice for selecting sections of one track or the entire timeline.

I've found that it's quite normal with digital tools to have more than one way of achieving an end result.

In Range mode, Track selection defines the Edit Group (which allows non-contiguous selection). The Range can be extended by either moving the CTI and setting In/Out Points or selecting Tracks to include within the Edit Group. The CTI is the Edit Point and Edit Target. Range mode is very similar to how 4 point (source/destination) Audio Editors function.

In Focus mode, the equivalent is the Extend Edit Selection options (To Previous/Next Edit and To Previous/Next Track).

In Range mode, Track selection defines the Edit Group (which allows non-contiguous selection). The Range can be extended by either moving the CTI and setting In/Out Points

Thanks for all that. First, I can't find "CTI" defined anywhere in the doc... although I guess that's not shocking considering the poor search function.

I'll have to spend some time scrutinizing the doc for Range Mode... that did turn up in a search, at least!

[Dwaine Maggart]

My Acrobat search of the Resolve 18.6.6 manual PDF finds 10 places where CTI is defined. CTI = Playhead.

Thanks for the reply, but your experience differs greatly from a Mac user's! And this is with "exact phrase" active.

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I get the same count as Dwaine. You have something strange going on there. Have you checked any of those pages to see if CTI actually appears on them?

No, but it doesn't matter, does it? The search is useless.

It does matter because it may be showing up a problem that only manifests itself on a Mac.
I wouldn't say the Search function is useless, but you do need to know the terminology to use it effectively.
I would like to see a comprehensive clickable index for the Reference manual, and have added that to the thread in the Feature Requests section.

The problem is the search result. I'm sure if I checked every one of the thousands of pages in the results I'd eventually find "CTI." How does that help?

it seems to be a problem with the "preview" program, I haven´t checked Acrobat though. I get 3038 results for "CTI", but that´s because produCTIon is mentioned a lot. Not sure if this is a Blackmagic-thing or more bad luck with the name and the preview app.

I'd say that the vast majority of Mac users are not going to have Acrobat Reader installed, and thus this is going to be their experience.

I'm not blaming BlackMagic for the piss-poor performance of Preview's search function. But it is a major impediment. I don't know a lot about Acrobat authoring, so I don't know what indexing options BMD might have here.

I'm filing a bug with Apple against this defect. I suggest other Mac users do the same. Because Apple has omitted Preview from its list of apps to file feedback on, I guess you have to use the general Mac OS one: https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html

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I'm using Foxit Reader to open PDFs and have never had any problems with it. They have a Mac version which might be worth a try. Have a look here.
https://www.foxit.com/pdf-reader/

Thanks! I'll have a look...

Hm, that one's not free. But I tried Skim: https://sourceforge.net/projects/skim-app/

And searching for "CTI" with "whole words only" on returns 10 hits, just as Dwaine reported.